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CRI&P GP9 1331
Title:  CRI&P GP9 1331
Description:  CRI&P GP9 1331, Silvis, Illinois, June 16, 1983, photo by Jim Altman, Chuck Zeiler collection. Built in April 1959 (c/n 25344) on EMD Order 8060, it used components from FTB 97B. It appears they had some difficulty getting the letter O to line up, I'm sure there is a story to go with that.
Photo Date:  6/16/1983  Upload Date: 11/4/2009 10:41:27 AM
Location:  Silvis, IL
Author:  Jim Altman
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  CRIP 1331(GP9R)
Views:  1351   Comments: 1
SP GP9E 3332
Title:  SP GP9E 3332
Description:  Southern Pacific Railroad GP9E 3332 at Memphis, Tennessee on March 15, 1985, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler. Built as 5650 in March 1956 ( c/n 21343 ) on EMD Order 5436, it became 3483 in the 1965 systemwide renumbering. Starting in 1970, the GP9's were rebuilt and this unit became 3332 after rebuilding. According to the Unofficial EMD Home Page, this unit went on to become KSW 3332, CKRY 3332, and finally OTRX 902. It was stenciled: PINE BLUFF PBMOO 3 85.
Photo Date:  3/15/1985  Upload Date: 6/19/2009 8:51:11 AM
Location:  Memphis, TN
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  SP 3332(GP9R) SP 3332(GP9R)
Views:  457   Comments: 0
SP GP9E 3332
Title:  SP GP9E 3332
Description:  Southern Pacific Railroad GP9E 3332 at Memphis, Tennessee on March 15, 1985, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler. Built as 5650 in March 1956 ( c/n 21343 ) on EMD Order 5436, it became 3483 in the 1965 systemwide renumbering. Starting in 1970, the GP9's were rebuilt and this unit became 3332 after rebuilding. According to the Unofficial EMD Home Page, this unit went on to become KSW 3332, CKRY 3332, and finally OTRX 902. It was stenciled: PINE BLUFF PBMOO 3 85.
Photo Date:  5/15/1985  Upload Date: 6/18/2009 2:18:16 PM
Location:  Memphis, TN
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  SP 3332(GP9R)
Views:  441   Comments: 0
SP GP9E 3336
Title:  SP GP9E 3336
Description:  SP GP9E 3336, Tucson, Arizona, November 21, 1985, photo by Chuck Zeiler. Built as road number 5634 in February 1956 (c/n 21327) on EMD Order 5436, it became 3467 after the 1965 systemwide renumbering. It was rebuilt to a GP9E (or possibly a GP9R) and numbered 3336. It later became RS 105. A quick note about the GP9E/GP9R designation: The SP rebuilt hundreds of locomotives at its Sacramento Shops, starting in 1970 with a program designated R8. This involved selling the old locomotives to Southern Pacific Equipment Company (which paid for the rebuilding) and leasing the rebuilds back to SP (for the tax advantage), thus the E designation. Around 1977, the program became GRIP (General Rehabilitation and Improvement Program) with the merger of the Southern Pacific Equipment Company and the Southern Pacific Transportation Company (when the tax advantage was lost). Thereafter, rebuilt locomotives were designated with the R suffix (GP9R). Without knowing the rebuild date, one can only speculate about the correct model designation. Perhaps more than you ever want to know can be found here: http://utahrails.net/sp/sp-r8-grip.php
Photo Date:  11/21/1985  Upload Date: 6/20/2009 10:05:34 AM
Location:  Tucson, AZ
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  SP 3336(GP9R)
Views:  552   Comments: 0
SP GP9E 3359
Title:  SP GP9E 3359
Description:  SP GP9E 3359, Tucson, Arizona, November 21, 1985, photo by Chuck Zeiler. According to the Unofficial EMD Home Page, this locomotive was built in May 1954 (c/n 19476) as TNO 244 (1st) on EMD Order 5334. It was renumbered SP 3415 after the 1965 systenwide renumbering, and was rebuilt to GP9E (or perhaps GP9R) 3359, then went on to become IWRR 174, AUNW 174, then VSRR 174. It is stencilled: HOUSTON HO MO2 9-85.
Photo Date:  11/21/1985  Upload Date: 6/21/2009 10:30:17 AM
Location:  Tucson, AZ
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  SP 3359(GP9R)
Views:  579   Comments: 0
KCS GP9 4162
Title:  KCS GP9 4162
Description:  KCS GP9 4162 and F7's 71 and 95 at Heavener, Oklahoma, date and photographer unknown (possibly Steve Laser), slide from Chuck Zeiler collection. All information is a guess, the slide was unmarked. Any help would be appreciated. Here is what we know so far.

Bob Courtney posted this request for information on the Yahoo KCS Discussion Group (sorry, don't have the address) and got these replies.

The photo in question was taken in Heavener just northeast of the engine house looking to the southwest. Tut Bartzen

Number 71 is an F7, 95 is an F3. The black unit behind 95 is one of the GP7's still painted in the black scheme. Numberboards on the front start with a 4 and the last digit visible on the cab side appears to be an 8. This would make it the 4158. It's original number would have been the 158. Question to ask..... When was it renumbered to 4158 from 158 and when was it painted white? The 4162 still has it's high nose front, so that definitely makes this a pre-1983 picture as it was rebuilt with a chopped nose after the wreck in Pittsburg, TX in '84. It is also post 1954 as it no longer has the GP7 louver on the hood and the panels under the cab since it was rebuilt from a GP7 into GP9m after its first wreck in 1954 by EMD. Casey

Chuck's comment: As stated, all information was a guess. I chose Pittsburg because I knew there was a shop there and the locomotives looked like they needed shopping more than servicing, but the roof vents on the shop building are unusual for the KCS. The 95 is a upgraded F3, according to the book, Kansas City Southern In The Deramus Era, by Louis A. Marre and Gregory J. Sommers. It was delivered in 1948 as F3 58A. In 1957 the 58 A-B-B-A set was broken up and 58A was renumbered 58, later renumbered to 95 before the KCS settled on four digit numbers for the F-units. Note 36 reads:

L&A 58A rebuilt to F7 specifications 12/31/53; renumbered to 95 at Pittsburg 5/68; renumbered to 4052 at Pittsburg 4/3/78.

As for the dark GP7, I assumed it to be an MP unit (but it lacks the MP chevrons), so KCS 4161 would be my guess. I looked at a closeup of the slide but could not accurately make out the number so I made no comment in the original post. Another determining factor to help pinpoint the date is the repaint, renumbering, or retirement date of 71. UPDATE: I received an email from Paul Strang with the following; I don’t recognize the photo and I don’t think I’ve ever seen the power split up that way. This shot might be by Steve Laser. He went there at lot right after he got out of the Navy and I ended up processing most of his stuff. This photo is at Heavener. The Wye track on which 71 was shot (in another slide) is the track in the foreground. The Fort Smith Dodger rated 95, a switcher, or a GP7/9. The AW (Arkansas Western branch to Waldron, AR) required two F-units as the max speed was 10 mph and there had to be enough power to climb the small grades w/o being able to get a run at them. The South Local had two GP30's and the North Local had two GP7/9 at this time. Mena had a GP for a switcher. It would often come to Heavener on weekends for service. That probably explains one of those units.

Photo Date:  6/1/1975  Upload Date: 6/5/2012 2:38:33 PM
Location:  Heavener, OK
Author:  Steve Laser
Categories:  Yard
Locomotives:  KCS 4162(GP9R) KCS 95(F7A) KCS 71(F7A)
Views:  1865   Comments: 0
KCS GP9R 4162
Title:  KCS GP9R 4162
Description:  Kansas City Southern GP9R 4162 at Howe, Oklahoma on December 31, 1975, Kodachrome by Paul L. Strang, Chuck Zeiler collection. Number 4162 was built in February 1953 as KCS GP7 162 (c/n 17932), rebuilt aftwr wreck damage by EMD to GP9 specifications in October 1954. It was renumbered during 1973 from 162 to 4162, and a low short hood was applied by KCS during February 1984.
Photo Date:  12/31/1975  Upload Date: 11/17/2012 12:58:13 PM
Location:  Howe, OK
Author:  Paul L. Strang
Categories:  Signal
Locomotives:  KCS 4162(GP9R)
Views:  429   Comments: 0
C&NW BU4
Title:  C&NW BU4
Description:  Chicago and North Western Railway BU4 at Proviso Illinois on an unknown day in October 1979, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler. Number BU4 was built in October 1949 as C&NW TR2B 2000B (c/n 10023) on EMD Order E1305, was rebuilt December 15, 1961 to Yard Slug BU4, and mated with TR2A 2000A. It was retired May 1, 1980, sold to the KCS becoming KCS 4079. Note the interesting mix of trucks, one is likely in the shop. This appears to be the track the C&NW stored locomotives on temporarily.
Photo Date:  10/1/1979  Upload Date: 10/8/2010 11:53:27 AM
Location:  Proviso, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster,Yard,Track
Locomotives:  CNW BU4(Yard Slug) CNW 4321(GP9R)
Views:  1840   Comments: 1
CR GP30 2198
Title:  CR GP30 2198
Description:  CR GP30 2198 at Proviso, Illinois on an unknown day in October, 1979, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler.
Photo Date:  10/1/1979  Upload Date: 7/2/2011 12:40:34 PM
Location:  Proviso, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  CR 2198(GP30) CNW 4321(GP9R)
Views:  1227   Comments: 0
C&NW GP9R 4321
Title:  C&NW GP9R 4321
Description:  Chicago & North Western Railway GP9R 4321 at West Chicago, Illinois on May 19, 1982, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler. Number 4321 was built in June 1954 as C&NW 1713 (c/n 19510), rebuilt and renumbered in October 1972, and retired on October 27, 1989, wreck damage I believe. Note in addition to the commuter rear end, there is an extra locker just behind the cab. One also might ponder the life expectancy of a revolving safety light with that kind of support.
Photo Date:  5/19/1982  Upload Date: 3/23/2013 2:52:44 PM
Location:  West Chicago, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  CNW 4321(GP9R) CNW 4321(GP9R)
Views:  1418   Comments: 0
C&NW GP7R 4322
Title:  C&NW GP7R 4322
Description:  Chicago & North Western Railway GP7R 4322 near Carol Stream, Illinois on an unknown day in October 1981, Ektachrome by Chuck Zeiler. This was the former Chicago Great Western Railway main line between Chicago and Saint Charles and beyond, torn up soon after this photo. I believe it is a rail trail now.
Photo Date:  10/1/1981  Upload Date: 4/23/2013 9:22:51 AM
Location:  Carol Stream, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Track
Locomotives:  CNW 4322(GP9R)
Views:  715   Comments: 0
C&NW GP9R 4324
Title:  C&NW GP9R 4324
Description:  Chicago & North Western Railway GP9R 4324 at about Western Avenue in Chicago, Illinois on May 12, 1984, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler. I stumbled across this scene one day on my way to work. Obviously 4324 is switching a special train, if anyone has any more information, please leave a comment, thanks.
Photo Date:  5/12/1984  Upload Date: 4/23/2013 10:12:42 AM
Location:  Chicago, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Signal
Locomotives:  CNW 4324(GP9R)
Views:  656   Comments: 0
C&NW GP9R 4501
Title:  C&NW GP9R 4501
Description:  Chicago & North Western Railway GP9R 4501 and 4512 at Oelrichs, South Dakota on September 20, 1985, Kodachrome by Jim Altman, Chuck Zeiler collection. The slide is marked: Oelrich's South Dakota Centennial train w/Business Car 'Minnesota' on Oelrichs Centennial Special returning to C&NW yard in Chadron, Nebraska.
Photo Date:  9/20/1985  Upload Date: 6/22/2013 10:46:53 AM
Location:  Oelrichs, SD
Author:  Jim Altman
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  CNW 4501(GP9R) CNW 4512(GP9R)
Views:  937   Comments: 0
C&NW GP9R 4504
Title:  C&NW GP9R 4504
Description:  Chicago & North Western Railway GP9R 4504 at Chadron, Nebraska on June 7, 1983, Kodachrome by Jim Altman, Chuck Zeiler collection. Jim notes that the nose had recently been repainted. This unit was built in October 1958 as Minneapolis & Saint Louis GP9 708, acquired by the C&NW through merger in November 1960, rebuilt (including chopped nose) in December 1973, retired December 12, 1988 and sold to the Fox River Valley Railroad.
Photo Date:  6/7/1983  Upload Date: 6/22/2013 12:08:54 PM
Location:  Chadron, NE
Author:  Jim Altman
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  CNW 4504(GP9R)
Views:  629   Comments: 0
C&NW GP9R 4534
Title:  C&NW GP9R 4534
Description:  Chicago & North Western Railway GP9 4534 at about North Avenue in Chicago, Illinois on June 22, 1987, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler.
Photo Date:  6/22/1987  Upload Date: 6/22/2013 1:42:01 PM
Location:  Chicago, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  CNW 4534(GP9R)
Views:  337   Comments: 1
C&NW GP9R 4542
Title:  C&NW GP9R 4542
Description:  Chicago & North Western Railway GP9R 4542 proudly showing a new pilot plow, MU hoses, class lights, headlight, and possibly an all-weather cab window at about Western and Grand Avenues in Chuicago, Illinois on an unknown day on October 1979, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler. Also seen is former Conrail RS32 2041, later C&NW 4240. It lasted about five years in C&NW service before being scrapped around August 1986.
Photo Date:  10/1/1979  Upload Date: 7/15/2013 11:54:24 AM
Location:  Chicago, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  CNW 4542(GP9R) CR 2041(RS32)
Views:  685   Comments: 0
C&NW GP9R 4544
Title:  C&NW GP9R 4544
Description:  Chicago & North Western Railway GP9R 4544 at DeKalb, Illinois on an unknown day in October 1986, Kodachrome by Edward M. DeRouin, Chuck Zeiler collection.
Photo Date:  10/1/1986  Upload Date: 7/15/2013 12:41:50 PM
Location:  DeKalb, IL
Author:  Edward M. DeRouin
Categories:  Yard
Locomotives:  CNW 4544(GP9R) CNW 4471(GP7R)
Views:  470   Comments: 0
C&NW GP9R 4557
Title:  C&NW GP9R 4557
Description:  Chicago & North Western Railway GP9R 4557 holding a little north of Proviso, Illinois on March 23, 1983, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler.
Photo Date:  3/23/1983  Upload Date: 7/15/2013 1:26:40 PM
Location:  Proviso, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  CNW 4557(GP9R)
Views:  485   Comments: 0
C&NW GP9R 4562
Title:  C&NW GP9R 4562
Description:  Chicago & North Western Railway GP9R 4562 a little west of Harrison, Nebraska on an unknown day in July 1985, Kodachrome by Jim Altman, Chuck Zeiler collection. Jim noted on the slide mount that this was the Northwest Nebraska Centennial Train. It appears to be made up of ex-Rock Island coaches (a combine at the far end) and a C&NW business car. Number 4562 is flying an American flag on the Engineer's side and a Welcome flag on the other side. There appears to be a locomotive at the other end.
Photo Date:  7/1/1985  Upload Date: 7/15/2013 2:47:08 PM
Location:  Harrison, NE
Author:  Jim Altman
Categories:  Bridge
Locomotives:  CNW 4562(GP9R)
Views:  820   Comments: 0


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