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CB&Q PMC 9845 & E8 9937B
Title:  CB&Q PMC 9845 & E8 9937B
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad PMC (Passenger Motor Car) 9845 & E8 9937B at Saint Joseph, Missouri on June 22, 1957 by Dick , Kodachrome by Rumbolz, Chuck Zeiler collection. An unfortunate shadow, or perhaps an unfortunate spotting of the gas-electric, at least from a photographic point of view. This photo shows the E unit painted in the as-delivered black "whisker" stripes on the nose. This was the first E8 delivered to the CB&Q (c/n 9674), built in December 1949, retired and sold for scrap May 28, 1975. All the CB&Q E8's and E9's were delivered with black "whiskers", and it was not until 1959 that the red "whiskers" were first applied. This E8 also shows the coupler covers (in the open position) applied to the E's and subsequently removed.
Photo Date:  6/22/1957  Upload Date: 3/11/2009 1:06:35 PM
Location:  Saint Joseph, MO
Author:  Dick Rumbolz
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  CBQ 9845(Motorcar) CBQ 9937B(E8A)
Views:  2074   Comments: 0
CB&Q E8 9937B
Title:  CB&Q E8 9937B
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9937B at the Zephyr Pit near 14th Street in Chicago on Illinois, March 14, 1965, Ektachrome by Chuck Zeiler. Built in December 1949 (c/n 9674) on EMD Order 2012A for 19 E8's, it became BN 9937 and was retired and sold for scrap May 28, 1975. This was the lowest numbered E8 on the CB&Q, presumably the first one delivered. It was built with Aluminum painted side panels, and during shopping the panels on this locomotive were changed to a stainless steel/plywood sandwich. The E8 was the first passenger locomotive offerd by EMD with the option of dynamic brakes. The Burlington chose not to include this option, but instead had a 600 gallon water tank installed in the location that would have been occupied by the dynamics, supplementing the 1350 gallon underbody tank. The E8's were delivered with a 55:22 gear ratio, producing a top speed of 98 mph.
Photo Date:  3/14/1965  Upload Date: 3/12/2009 12:29:11 PM
Location:  Chicago, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  CBQ 9937B(E8A)
Views:  970   Comments: 0
CB&Q E8 9937B
Title:  CB&Q E8 9937B
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9937B, westbound at Naperville on Illinois, April 28, 1965, photo by Chuck Zeiler. This is the Burlington's first E8, built December 1949 (c/n 9674), numbered just one suffix letter above the last E7, 9937A, built nine months earlier. It was delivered with silver (Aluminum) painted side panels, but was fitted with stainless steel panels during shopping. It became BN 9937 on March 2, 1970, and was retired May 28, 1975, sold for scrap to Precision Engineering Co. of Mt. Vernon, Illinois, later known as Precision National Corp..
Photo Date:  4/28/1965  Upload Date: 6/12/2008 11:17:39 AM
Location:  Naperville, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  CBQ 9937B(E8A)
Views:  1206   Comments: 0
CB&Q E8 9938A
Title:  CB&Q E8 9938A
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E-8 #9938A westbound at Naperville, Illinois on August 21, 1964, photo by Chuck Zeiler. A spotting feature of CB&Q E-8's and E-9's was the silver painted fourth porthole. I never determined a reason for that. Built December 1949 as CB&Q #9938A (c/n 9675), it became BN #9938. Around November 1973 it was sent to Morrison-Knudsen to be rebuilt to E-8u specs, exchanging its twin 12-567B model prime movers for 12-645EC's, and the electrical system was upgraded. In addition, the steam generators were replaced with a Cummins 500Kw generator for Head End Power (HEP). When it returned to BN rails (now numbered 9901) it was owned by the West Suburban Mass Transit District (WSMTD) and leased to the BN, and named "Village of Clarendon Hills". It worked suburban trains until July 1992 when it was retired, and eventually became Illinois Central #100. It is shown here at the head end of westbound CB&Q Train #1, The Denver Zephyr. The DZ left Chicago's Union Station daily at 5:00PM CST, this photo was taken in August, so Daylight Saving Time would make the time of the photo about 6:30PM. The train is a half hour into its overnight run to Denver, 1034 miles, due in Denver's Union Station at 10:40AM. Running two hours ahead of this train is the daily Train #17, The California Zephyr. The DZ's accommodations included: Reclining Seat Chair Cars (DZ-14, DZ-34, DZ-36, DZ-39), Vista-Dome Reclining Seat Chair Cars (DZ-14, DZ-35), [note; the DZ-14 was either a flat top coach or dome coach - depending on the season], Vista-Dome Buffet-Lounge Chair Car (DZ-37),Vista-Dome "Chuck Wagon" (lounge for all passengers), Dining Car, Slumbercoaches (SC-12, SC-19), Pullman Sleeping Cars (DZ-1, DZ-2, DZ-3, DZ-10), and a Vista-Dome Observation Lounge. The diner separated the coach passengers from the first class passengers. Depending on the passenger count, at least one Reclining Chair Car, one Slumbercoach, one Pullman Sleeping Car, and the Vista-Dome "Chuck Wagon", would be cut out of the DZ at Denver and attached to the D&RGW's "Royal Gorge" train and dropped off at Colorado Springs.
Photo Date:  8/21/1964  Upload Date: 3/16/2008 9:00:33 PM
Location:  Naperville, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster,Passenger
Locomotives:  CBQ 9938a(E8A)
Views:  1695   Comments: 3
CB&Q E8 9938A
Title:  CB&Q E8 9938A
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9938A eastbound at Naperville, Illinois on April 19, 1965, Ektachrome by Chuck Zeiler.
Photo Date:  4/19/1965  Upload Date: 5/19/2011 2:28:41 PM
Location:  Naperville, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Passenger
Locomotives:  CBQ 9938a(E8A)
Views:  1425   Comments: 1
CB&Q E8 9938A
Title:  CB&Q E8 9938A
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9938A westbound at about Milepost 27 between Lisle and Naperville, Illinois on April 27, 1965, Ektachrome by Chuck Zeiler.
Photo Date:  4/27/1965  Upload Date: 11/4/2013 2:24:13 PM
Location:  Naperville, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Passenger
Locomotives:  CBQ 9938a(E8A)
Views:  456   Comments: 0
CB&Q E8 9938A
Title:  CB&Q E8 9938A
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9938A westbound at Naperville, Illinois on June 23, 1965, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler.
Photo Date:  6/23/1965  Upload Date: 5/14/2015 1:59:07 PM
Location:  Naperville, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Passenger
Locomotives:  CBQ 9938a(E8A)
Views:  293   Comments: 0
CB&Q E8 9938B
Title:  CB&Q E8 9938B
Description:  CB&Q E8 9938B westbound at Naperville, Illinois with Train #1, The Denver Zephyr, on July 27, 1965, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler. Number 9938B was built in December 1949 (c/n 9676) became BN 9932 sometime after March 2, 1970, was retired and sold for scrap June 27, 1972.
Photo Date:  7/27/1965  Upload Date: 5/20/2011 10:45:41 AM
Location:  Naperville, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster,Passenger
Locomotives:  CBQ 9938B(E8A)
Views:  470   Comments: 0
CB&Q E8 9939B
Title:  CB&Q E8 9939B
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9939B eastbound at Naperville, Illinois on April 14, 1964, photograph by Chuck Zeiler.
Photo Date:  4/14/1964  Upload Date: 3/27/2016 5:29:31 PM
Location:  Naperville, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Passenger
Locomotives:  CBQ 9939B(E8A)
Views:  283   Comments: 0
CB&Q E8 9939B
Title:  CB&Q E8 9939B
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9939B at Naperville, Illinois on April 14, 1964, photograph by Chuck Zeiler. I would speculate that this was Train Number 23, the Afternoon Zephyr, also known as the Twin Cities Zephyr. There were two Twin Cities Zephyrs in each direction every day, so they acquired the monikers Morning and Afternoon. I thought about cropping the photo better, but there is motion blur on the lead unit, so I decided to leave it as is.
Photo Date:  4/14/1964  Upload Date: 3/27/2016 5:43:42 PM
Location:  Naperville, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Passenger
Locomotives:  CBQ 9939B(E8A)
Views:  322   Comments: 0
CB&Q E8 9939A
Title:  CB&Q E8 9939A
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9939A on Train Number 10, the eastbound Denver Zephyr (DZ) at Denver, Colorado on August 20, 1964, Ektachrome by Chuck Zeiler. Built in January, 1950 (c/n 9677) on EMD Order 2012A, sometime after the March 2, 1970 merger, this locomotive became BN 9939. In December, 1973, it was rebuilt by Morrison Knudsen in Boise, Idaho, returned as BN 9902, although it was actually owned by the West Suburban Mass Transit District and leased to the BN. In December 1992 it was retired and it is now on display at the Saint Louis Museum of Transportation.

This photo opportunity is the result of my parents taking me on a round trip on the Denver Zephyr from Chicago to Colorado Springs in August 1964. While the Colordo Springs Connection cars were cut into the DZ, that took about an hour, I took photos. I spent the next 12 hours behind this locomotive set enjoying the ride back to Chicago.

Photo Date:  8/20/1964  Upload Date: 5/7/2008 11:38:34 AM
Location:  Denver, CO
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster,Passenger
Locomotives:  CBQ 9939A(E8A)
Views:  3710   Comments: 3
CB&Q E8 9939A
Title:  CB&Q E8 9939A
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9939A eastbound at Naperville, Illinois on January 2, 1965, Ektachrome by Chuck Zeiler. I was in the wrong place at the right time. I noted on the slide mount that the train was crossing the DuPage River just west of Naperville, however I failed to note the train number.
Photo Date:  1/2/1965  Upload Date: 3/5/2016 4:29:08 PM
Location:  Naperville, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Bridge
Locomotives:  CBQ 9939A(E8A)
Views:  358   Comments: 0
CB&Q E8 9939B
Title:  CB&Q E8 9939B
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9939B westbound on Train #17 at Naperville, Illinois on April 26, 1965, Ektachrome by Chuck Zeiler. Almost a classic California Zephyr photo if the weather had played nice, oh well. This locomotive was built in January 1950 (c/n 9678) on EMD Order 2012A, was destroyed in Gibson roundhouse fire, Omaha, Nebraska, February 19, 1969, retired in September 1969, and finally dismantled in December that year.
Photo Date:  4/26/1965  Upload Date: 12/24/2009 11:25:40 AM
Location:  Naperville, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster,Passenger
Locomotives:  CBQ 9939B(E8A)
Views:  610   Comments: 1
CB&Q Depot at Ardmore, South Dakota
Title:  CB&Q Depot at Ardmore, South Dakota
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad depot at Ardmore, South Dakota on an unknown day in September 1964, duplicate slide by Al Chione, Chuck Zeiler collection.
Photo Date:  9/1/1964  Upload Date: 12/2/2018 8:42:19 PM
Location:  Ardmore, SD
Author:  Al Chione
Categories:  Station
Locomotives:  CBQ 9940B(E8A)
Views:  677   Comments: 0
CB&Q E8 9940A
Title:  CB&Q E8 9940A
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9940A on Train Number 31, the westbound Empire Builder, at Naperville, Illinois on January 2, 1965, Ektachrome by Chuck Zeiler.
Photo Date:  1/2/1965  Upload Date: 12/28/2013 1:36:10 PM
Location:  Naperville, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Passenger
Locomotives:  CBQ 9940A(E8A)
Views:  725   Comments: 0
CB&Q E8 9940A
Title:  CB&Q E8 9940A
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9940A eastbound at Naperville, Illinois on January 28, 1965, Ektachrome by Chuck Zeiler.
Photo Date:  1/28/1965  Upload Date: 12/28/2013 1:38:23 PM
Location:  Naperville, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Passenger
Locomotives:  CBQ 9940A(E8A)
Views:  558   Comments: 0
CB&Q E8 9940A
Title:  CB&Q E8 9940A
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9940A westbound at Naperville, Illinois on April 27, 1965, Ektachrome by Chuck Zeiler.
Photo Date:  4/27/1965  Upload Date: 12/28/2013 1:41:18 PM
Location:  Naperville, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Passenger
Locomotives:  CBQ 9940A(E8A)
Views:  506   Comments: 0
CB&Q E8 9940A
Title:  CB&Q E8 9940A
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9940A westbound at Naperville, Illinois on Sunday, May 23, 1965, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler. I lived along the Burlington's triple track main line during 1962-1966 in Naperville and I photographed a few trains during that time. One of the memories I have was the shuffle of the E-units between Aurora and Chicago. On Friday evening, after their assigned runs, the commuter E's would be run back to Chicago for service/rotation, and on Sunday evening, replacements would be run back out to Aurora for Monday morning rush hour trains. The CB&Q rotated their E-units between Zephyr assignments and Dinkys (in CB&Q parlance, the commuter service trains were known as Dinkys). The Dinkys ran outbound from Chicago to Aurora in the evening, so at the end of Friday, the E's in Aurora were run back to the Zephyr Pit at 14th St. in Chicago on the next Dinky, to be serviced/inspected and placed in Zephyr service, and the locos coming off Zephyr service would be assigned to Dinkys. Number 9940A is seen here headed for Aurora on a Sunday evening with three more E's and two coaches. I imagine the engineer had an easy time with the schedule, I believe the loco's were all MU'd, so he probably had good acceleration.
Photo Date:  5/23/1965  Upload Date: 6/11/2008 12:23:57 PM
Location:  Naperville, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  CBQ 9940A(E8A)
Views:  911   Comments: 1
CB&Q E8 9940A
Title:  CB&Q E8 9940A
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9940A westbound at Naperville, Illinois on July 27, 1965, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler. This photo illustrates a transitional period in CB&Q powered suburban trains. If only two Budd bi-level coaches were on the assigned train, a tap was made to the 72 volt Auxiliary Generators on modified E-units and the power car (the car behind the locomotive) could be omitted. The lights and auxiliary controls on the Budd cars were electrically powered, the heat was from locomotive-supplied steam, and the air-conditioning was by Wakesha engines powered by propane.
Photo Date:  7/27/1965  Upload Date: 12/28/2013 2:50:27 PM
Location:  Naperville, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Passenger
Locomotives:  CBQ 9940A(E8A)
Views:  484   Comments: 0
CB&Q E8 9940A
Title:  CB&Q E8 9940A
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9940A on Train 21, the Morning Zephyr at Waterman, Illinois, February 18, 1966, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler. This locomotive was built January 1950 (c/n 9679), became BN 9940, later 9903, then IC 102 and as of 06/11/08 became CN 102. It is pictured on the westbound Morning Zephyr which usually rated only two motors (CB&Q term for Locomotive). Also, the Zephyr has two dome observation cars in the consist, one cut in behind the motors but ahead of the baggage car. The second dome observation is running backwards coupled to the baggage car, the third car in the consist. Around this time, the CB&Q dispatched Train 21 with the observation running backwards to save switching charges at Saint Paul, but I cannot explain the first dome behind the motors except to speculate that it is a ferry move to get the dome in position for another assignment.
Photo Date:  2/18/1966  Upload Date: 6/11/2008 11:31:09 AM
Location:  Waterman, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  CBQ 9940A(E8A)
Views:  1041   Comments: 1
CB&Q E8 9941B
Title:  CB&Q E8 9941B
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9941B eastbound at Columbia Street in Naperville, Illinois on April 14, 1962, photograph by Chuck Zeiler.
Photo Date:  4/14/1962  Upload Date: 1/28/2015 2:44:02 PM
Location:  Naperville, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Bridge
Locomotives:  CBQ 9941B(E8A)
Views:  380   Comments: 1
CB&Q E8 9941A
Title:  CB&Q E8 9941A
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9941A eastbound at Naperville, Illinois on March 11, 1965, Ektachrome by Chuck Zeiler. This train is eastbound on Track 1, generally speaking, against the flow of traffic.
Photo Date:  3/11/1965  Upload Date: 12/28/2013 1:46:11 PM
Location:  Naperville, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Winter
Locomotives:  CBQ 9941A(E8A)
Views:  438   Comments: 0
CB&Q E8 9941A
Title:  CB&Q E8 9941A
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9941A eastbound on Train #30 at Naperville, Illinois, June 9, 1965, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler. Train #30 was the Ak-Sar-Ben (Nebraska, spelled backwards) Zephyr, the daily Lincoln to Chicago overnight Zephyr which also handled mail, not to be confused with the CB&Q-C&S Train #30, the 'Nightcrawler', a daily Denver to Billings passenger train. It's possible this train also contains parts of Train #56, the American Royal Zephyr, which ran between Saint Joseph-Kansas City, Missouri and Chicago. According to the June 1965 edition of The Official Guide, both trains arrived in Galesburg at slightly different times, but both departed at 4:45 AM CST, with both trains due to arrive at Chicago Union Station at 7:50 AM CST. There is a schedule in the Employees Timetable #10 for #30 between Galesburg and Chicago, but none for #56, suggesting that the trains were combined.

Note the new gallery car cut in third car back. The CB&Q was in the process of receiving new bi-level commuter coaches from Budd around this time, including six with control cabs to initiate push-pull service on the Chicago-Aurora commuter line. In order to avoid Illinois state sales tax, the new cars were routed from the builder to Lincoln, Nebraska, weighed, and returned to Chicago on the next available train.
Photo Date:  6/9/1965  Upload Date: 12/23/2009 12:45:19 PM
Location:  Naperville, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster,Passenger
Locomotives:  CBQ 9941A(E8A)
Views:  1620   Comments: 1
CB&Q E8 9941A
Title:  CB&Q E8 9941A
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9941A pushing eastbound at Naperville, Illinois on October 17, 1965, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler. On track 3 is Detector 9060 checking the rails for defects.
Photo Date:  10/17/1965  Upload Date: 12/28/2013 2:00:10 PM
Location:  Naperville, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Track
Locomotives:  CBQ 9941A(E8A) CBQ 9060(MoW Equipment)
Views:  459   Comments: 0
CB&Q E8 9941A
Title:  CB&Q E8 9941A
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9941A westbound on Train #21 at Naperville, Illinois on December 25, 1965, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler. This locomotive was built in March 1950 (c/n 9681) on EMD Order 2012A, became BN 9941 after March 2, 1970, became Amtrak 336 on August 1, 1972, was retired and sold for scrap May 28, 1975. It is seen here heading the Morning Zephyr westbound on Christmas Day, 1965, and if it's on time, it's about 9:25 AM.
Photo Date:  12/25/1965  Upload Date: 6/29/2009 1:20:37 PM
Location:  Naperville, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Winter
Locomotives:  CBQ 9941A(E8A)
Views:  1015   Comments: 1
CB&Q E8 9941B
Title:  CB&Q E8 9941B
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9941B, Chicago Union Station (CUS), May 19, 1966, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler. Built in March 1950 (c/n 9682) on EMD Order 2012A, it became BN 9934 sometime after March 2, 1970, was sold to Amtrak August 1, 1972 and was renumbered to 333, was retired and scrapped in 1977.

This is as far east as you could go on the CB&Q, although technically, the CB&Q tracks ended a couple of miles behind this train at about Union Avenue, and this train is on CUS Company rails. This locomotive had just brought a Dinky into Union Station, the class lights are on and red, now what? I asked Karl Rethwisch, a retired CB&Q (and BN) Engineer about the procedure of getting the Dinkys out of the station, and here is his relpy:

First, while still inbound and passing 14th Street, I would cut the steam off to the train so the line would be safe to disconnect by the Carmen in the yard. Once in the Depot we'd unload the passengers, wait for the back up signal and then - - back up. These moves were controlled by the back-up hose as were all such operations in those days (pre radio). The Switchtender under 12th Street would have to line us into the assigned track and indicate to the rear man that we were indeed lined in. Proceeding up the lead we would shove to the limit of the yard track and stop. The stop was courtesy of the back up hose. We, the Engineer and Fireman, were done for that leg of the trip. At some time later, the Hostler would come and gather up the engines and run 'em over to the pit for servicing and turning. Later in the day the Hostler would bring the engines back to the trains to which assigned and we'd do it all over again only this time, in the reverse order of the morning move.
Photo Date:  5/19/1966  Upload Date: 12/21/2009 12:16:48 PM
Location:  Chicago Union Station, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster,Passenger
Locomotives:  CBQ 9941B(E8A)
Views:  1095   Comments: 2
CB&Q E8 9942A
Title:  CB&Q E8 9942A
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9942A on Train #21, the westbound Morning Zephyr (Twin Cities Zephyr) at Aurora, Illinois on March 21, 1965, Ektachrome by Chuck Zeiler. This particular E8 has its original painted side panels. Records indicate that it was never retrofitted with stainless steel panels, though many of this order (2012) of E8's were. It was not until the third order of E-8's (2048) that the locomotives came from the builder with stainless steel plates as original equipment.
Photo Date:  3/21/1965  Upload Date: 5/13/2008 10:25:51 AM
Location:  Aurora, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  CBQ 9942A(E8A)
Views:  1324   Comments: 1
CB&Q E8 9942A
Title:  CB&Q E8 9942A
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9942A westbound at Naperville, Illinois on April 27, 1965, Ektachrome by Chuck Zeiler. Built in March 1950 (c/n 9683) on EMD Order 2012A, it became BN 9942 (after 3/2/1970), became Amtrak 337 (after 8/1/1972), and was retired and sold for scrap May 28, 1975. It is seen here on a westbound Dinky exactly 28 miles from Union Station in Chicago.
Photo Date:  4/27/1965  Upload Date: 6/29/2009 11:24:27 AM
Location:  Naperville, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  CBQ 9942A(E8A)
Views:  739   Comments: 1
CB&Q E8 9942B
Title:  CB&Q E8 9942B
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9942B on westbound Train #1, the Denver Zephyr, on May 23, 1965, Ektachrome by Chuck Zeiler. Built during March 1950 (c/n 9684), it became BN 9935 on March 2, 1970. It was sold to the West Suburban Mass Transit District (WSMTD) August 18, 1972 and leased back to the BN. During February 1974, it was rebuilt as E9Am 9900 by Morrison-Knudsen in Boise, Idaho. It was named (in 1978) "Don H. King" and was leased to the BN under contract with the RTA (still owned by the WSMTD) until retired in January 1993. I do not know its final disposition.
Photo Date:  5/23/1965  Upload Date: 6/23/2008 12:11:00 PM
Location:  Naperville, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  CBQ 9942B(E8A)
Views:  1863   Comments: 1
CB&Q E8 9942A
Title:  CB&Q E8 9942A
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9942A on Train #25, the North Coast Limited, at Flag Center, Illinois on June 26, 1965, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler. The train behind the signal is steam fan trip powered by 2-8-2 4960, which had cut off the train to turn on the wye.
Photo Date:  6/26/1965  Upload Date: 1/29/2014 3:29:37 PM
Location:  Flag Center, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Passenger
Locomotives:  CBQ 9942A(E8A)
Views:  468   Comments: 3
CB&Q E8 9942B
Title:  CB&Q E8 9942B
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9942B on Train #18, the eastbound California Zephyr, at Aurora, Illinois on July 17, 1965, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler.
Photo Date:  7/17/1965  Upload Date: 2/27/2014 6:24:41 PM
Location:  Aurora, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Station
Locomotives:  CBQ 9942B(E8A)
Views:  333   Comments: 0
CB&Q E8 9942A
Title:  CB&Q E8 9942A
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9942A eastbound at Naperville, Illinois on July 23, 1965, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler. Built in March 1950 (c/n 9683) on EMD Order 2012A, it became BN 9942 (after 3/2/1970), became Amtrak 337 (after 8/1/1972), and was retired and sold for scrap May 28, 1975. It is seen here as the rear unit of a Friday evening eastbound push-pull Dinky. All the locomotives were MU'ed together, so that's at least 9000 horsepower pushing a single coach. After the rush hour trains arrived in Aurora, the Burlington needed to get the locomotives back to Chicago for service and rotation into Zephyr service. This is likely Train #154, daily passenger due out of Aurora at 6:15 PM and arriving at Union Station at 7:15 PM. The process would be reversed on Sunday evening with locomotives off Zephyr service run out to Aurora on a single car Dinky for Monday morning rush hour. This situation would have been a bit different only a couple of months earlier. The CB&Q had just received gallery cab cars from Budd and had only recently started push-pull service. The previous procedure was to turn all the locomotives (cabs facing east) and head them back to Chicago pulling a single coach.
Photo Date:  7/23/1965  Upload Date: 3/13/2009 12:56:37 PM
Location:  Naperville, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  CBQ 9942A(E8A)
Views:  529   Comments: 0
CB&Q E8 9942B
Title:  CB&Q E8 9942B
Description:  CB&Q E8 9942B on Train #1, the Denver Zephyr, at Chicago Union Station, October 23, 1965, photo by Chuck Zeiler. Admittedly not a good photo, also not a Dinky, but it helps illustrate the following story from Karl Rethwisch, a retired CB&Q locomotive engineer.

All the CB&Q E units had the 24RL brake schedule with Dual Service mode built into it. In mainline passenger service the brake valve was configured to operate in the conventional manner, meaning the normal automatic (AU) brake valve operation. In suburban service, however, the brake valve was configured to operate in the Straight Air (SA) mode. The Dual Mode Brake Valve was a great feature on suburban trains. In mainline passenger service SMOOTH was the name of the game. In suburban service QUICKNESS was the order of the day. When an initial terminal brake test was required, the Engineer placed the air brake selector clutch in the AU position and performed the test. Upon receipt of an indication from the Trainman performing the walking inspection that the brakes set and released, the Engineer placed the selector clutch in the SA position. An application of the brakes is made and the Trainman walks the train again to assure the proper operation of the SA equipment. As his walk ends at the engine, he would report to the Engineer that everything works. It must be noted that LAP position does not exist when in SA mode. Instructions admonish the Engineer to NOT move the selector clutch again for the remainder of the trip.

In the old days when a crew went on duty at 14th Street, the air tests were performed prior to backing into CUS (Chicago Union Station). Also, in the old days, a tail hose was employed by the Trainman responsible for getting the train safely into the depot and stopped, SHORT of the bumping post (end of track). The tail hose was a crude device consisting of a whistle and a valve designed to reduce trainline pressure in an unmeasured manner. As the rear car approached the bumping post, the Trainman would crack the valve to slow the movement. At the proper moment (hopefully) the valve was opened ALL the way, placing the train in emergency. The air in the trainline cannot now be restored until some kindly person closes the tail hose valve. If no one does anything, the engine will send air back through the brake pipe until it runs out of air.

That having been said, this might be a good place to insert a note concerning an idiosyncrasy of Vapor-Clarkson Steam Generators. The boilers need pressurized air to atomize the fuel in order to remain operational. There are several methods available to the Engineer of saving the air most of which require getting down off the engine. One method that does not require getting down is as simple as moving the air brake selector clutch to AU and placing the brake valve handle in LAP position. We have now stopped the flow of air as well as violated a rule.

Once under way, another rule requires that an application of the train brakes must be made to determine that they work (the running test). Since the maximum speed through the Canal St. curve is 25 mph, what better place to kill two birds with one brake application. Most trains can exceed 25 on their way past the coach yard so, as the curve draws near, the Engineer reaches for the brake valve handle and moves it to the Application Position. Application Position exists ONLY in SA mode. As the handle is moved the Engineer hears a small but DISTINCTIVE exhaust of air. This small exhaust ONLY occurs in the AU position and, with the speed well above 25 and the curve immediately in front of the engine there's a MAD SCRAMBLE by the Engineer to center the brake handle, fumble with the selector clutch to find SA, move the brake valve handle to Release Position and then apply the straight air brakes to the train.

Let's see, what was that rule governing the use of the selector clutch after an air test? Hmmm.
Photo Date:  10/23/1965  Upload Date: 12/5/2009 7:39:13 PM
Location:  Chicago, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster,Station,Passenger
Locomotives:  CBQ 9942B(E8A)
Views:  711   Comments: 1
CB&Q E8 9942A
Title:  CB&Q E8 9942A
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9942A on Track #2 at Union Station, Chicago, Illinois on February 6, 1967, Ektachrome by Chuck Zeiler. The class lights are lit and red, indicating this is the end of the train, which arrived earlier as Train #132. This is not a push-pull train, the Engineer is preparing to back the train to the coach yard and is observing Rule 19.
Photo Date:  2/6/1967  Upload Date: 12/14/2009 9:26:39 AM
Location:  Chicago Union Station, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster,Station,Passenger
Locomotives:  CBQ 9942A(E8A)
Views:  909   Comments: 3
CB&Q E8 9943A
Title:  CB&Q E8 9943A
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9943A eastbound at Naperville, Illinois on March 17, 1965, Ektachrome by Chuck Zeiler.
Photo Date:  3/17/1965  Upload Date: 12/28/2013 2:06:53 PM
Location:  Naperville, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Passenger
Locomotives:  CBQ 9943A(E8A)
Views:  367   Comments: 0
CB&Q E8 9943A
Title:  CB&Q E8 9943A
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9943A eastbound at Naperville, Illinois on April 19, 1965, Ektachrome by Chuck Zeiler.
Photo Date:  4/19/1965  Upload Date: 2/27/2014 6:33:54 PM
Location:  Naperville, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Passenger
Locomotives:  CBQ 9943A(E8A)
Views:  276   Comments: 0
CB&Q E8 9943B
Title:  CB&Q E8 9943B
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9943B eastbound at Naperville, Illinois on April 19, 1965, Ektachrome by Chuck Zeiler.
Photo Date:  4/19/1965  Upload Date: 5/5/2014 1:05:01 PM
Location:  Naperville, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Passenger
Locomotives:  CBQ 9943B(E8A)
Views:  245   Comments: 0
CB&Q E8 9943A
Title:  CB&Q E8 9943A
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9943A eastbound at Naperville, Illinois on April 26, 1965, Ektachrome by Chuck Zeiler.
Photo Date:  4/26/1965  Upload Date: 11/27/2014 12:17:45 PM
Location:  Naperville, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Passenger
Locomotives:  CBQ 9943A(E8A)
Views:  272   Comments: 2
CB&Q E8 9943A
Title:  CB&Q E8 9943A
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9943A westbound on Train #1, the Denver Zephyr, at Naperville, Illinois on April 27, 1965, Ektachrome by Chuck Zeiler.
Photo Date:  4/27/1965  Upload Date: 5/5/2014 2:24:46 PM
Location:  Naperville, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Passenger
Locomotives:  CBQ 9943A(E8A)
Views:  206   Comments: 1
CB&Q E8 9943A
Title:  CB&Q E8 9943A
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E-8 #9943A westbound at Naperville, Illinois, May 9, 1965, Ektachrome by Chuck Zeiler. I lived along the Burlington's triple track main line during 1962-1966 in Naperville and I photographed a few trains during that time. One of the memories I have was the shuffle of the E-units between Aurora and Chicago. On Friday evening, after their assigned runs, the commuter E's would be run back to Chicago for service/rotation, and on Sunday evening, replacements would be run back out to Aurora for Monday morning rush hour trains. The CB&Q rotated their E-units between Zephyr assignments and commuter service. The commuter service (in CB&Q parlance, the commuter service trains were known as Dinkys) was westbound from Chicago to Aurora in the evening, so at the end of Friday, the E's in Aurora were run back to the Zephyr Pit at 14th St. in Chicago on the next eastbound Dinky, to be serviced/inspected and placed in Zephyr service, and the locos coming off Zephyr service would be assigned to Dinkys. One of the chores of the rotation would be the replacement of brake shoes, and this photo illustrates the E's showing off their new shoes as they were run back west to Aurora for the Monday morning rush hour. The train behind this one would have about 5 E's and one coach. All (except the coach) would have blazing brake shoes as the approached the stop at the Naperville station (behind me in this photo). This usually happened late in the evening. I have a photo of this event, but it is just brake shoe glow. I imagine the engineer had an easy time with the schedule, I believe the loco's were all MU'd, so he probably had good acceleration.
Photo Date:  5/9/1965  Upload Date: 9/11/2009 4:48:18 PM
Location:  Naperville, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  CBQ 9943A(E8A)
Views:  399   Comments: 1
CB&Q E8 9943B
Title:  CB&Q E8 9943B
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9943B westbound on Train #17, The California Zephyr, Naperville, Illinois, June 24, 1965, photo by Chuck Zeiler. Business is a little better than usual, there are two flat top coaches cut in between the baggage car and the first dome coach. This locomotive was built in April 1950 (c/n 9686) on EMD Order 2012A, became BN 9936, and was sold for scrap to Precision National in June 1981. It is seen here 27 miles from Union Station in Chicago, half way between Lisle and Naperville, about a half hour into its overnight journey to Denver, where the CB&Q power will be replaced with D&RGW power. The CZ will continue through the Rocky Mountains arriving at Salt Lake City, Utah, where the D&RGW power will be replaced by WP power for the final leg of the journey to Oakland, California, 2525 miles from its starting point. Two days from this photo date, this same locomotive will return to Chicago leading Train #10, The Denver Zephyr.
Photo Date:  6/24/1965  Upload Date: 4/13/2009 12:11:49 PM
Location:  Naperville, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  CBQ 9943B(E8A)
Views:  1255   Comments: 1
CB&Q E8 9943B
Title:  CB&Q E8 9943B
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9943B & O1a 4960 at Aurora, Illinois on June 26, 1965, Koadchrome by Chuck Zeiler. It's a busy moment at the Aurora, Illinois Depot as a freight passes though and Train #10, The Denver Zephyr arrives for its 8:45 AM CST stop. This being summer, it's 9:45 DST locally, and Extra 4960 West waits for the trains to clear the circuit before proceeding on a fantrip to Oregon, Illinois and return. By almost anyone's standards this was an unusual fantrip, the feature of this trip was that it was a working way freight. In addition to the usual baggage car (for tape recording and hanging your head out), open gondola, air-conditioned coaches and snack car, the trip had freight cars to be set out at various industries along the way.
Photo Date:  6/26/1965  Upload Date: 4/13/2009 10:35:42 AM
Location:  Aurora, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  CBQ 9943B(E8A) CBQ 4960(2-8-2)
Views:  972   Comments: 1
CB&Q E8 9943A
Title:  CB&Q E8 9943A
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9943A westbound at Berwyn, Illinois on June 27, 1965, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler. This locomotive was built during March 1950 (c/n 9685), became Burlington Northern 9943 after the BN merger March 2, 1970, became Amtrak 338 on August 1, 1972, retired May 28, 1975 and sold for scrap during July 1975 to H. Koppell Co. of Boise Idaho. It's Sunday, the clue being three locomotives and two coaches on Train 225. The CB&Q practice was to rotate the passenger E's between suburban assignments and Zephyr assignments. As a result, locomotives would lay over in Chicago at the Zephyr Pit (14th St. service facility), and on Sunday evening, the E's coming off the Zephyrs would be run out to Aurora on Sunday evening on the Dinkys (commuter trains) in preparation for the Monday morning rush hour, thus the expanation for the multiple E-units on this Dinky. On the adjacent track is Train #1, the westbound Denver Zephyr.
Photo Date:  6/27/1965  Upload Date: 6/22/2008 8:23:04 PM
Location:  Berwyn, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  CBQ 9943A(E8A)
Views:  1075   Comments: 0
CB&Q E8 9943A
Title:  CB&Q E8 9943A
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9943A on Train #25, the North Coast Limited, at Aurora, Illinois on November 1, 1965, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler. The Fireman was looking back for a highball, the waving kind, not the drinking kind. This photo also illustrates the difference between painted side panels and the stainless steel panels on the trailing unit.
Photo Date:  11/1/1965  Upload Date: 6/25/2015 7:49:54 PM
Location:  Aurora, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Station
Locomotives:  CBQ 9943A(E8A)
Views:  509   Comments: 1
CB&Q E8 9943A
Title:  CB&Q E8 9943A
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9943A on Train #25, the North Coast Limited, at Aurora, Illinois on November 1, 1965, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler.
Photo Date:  11/1/1965  Upload Date: 9/15/2014 4:54:55 PM
Location:  Aurora, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Station
Locomotives:  CBQ 9943A(E8A)
Views:  549   Comments: 0
CB&Q E8 9943A
Title:  CB&Q E8 9943A
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9943A and E7 9927B arriving at Aurora with Train Number 21, the Morning Zephyr, also known as the Twin Cities Zephyr, on November 14, 1965, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler. The Fireman was preparing to pick up train orders. The blunt end observation car was coupled to the baggage car. This was the practice in later years to save switching charges at Saint Paul. The power and baggage car would uncouple from the train upon arrival at Saint Paul, leaving the train at the station. The power would be turned and serviced, return to the station, couple to the train, and depart as Train Number 24, the Afternoon Zephyr.
Photo Date:  11/14/1965  Upload Date: 9/17/2015 1:51:04 PM
Location:  Aurora, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Signal,Passenger
Locomotives:  CBQ 9943A(E8A) CBQ 9927B(E7A)
Views:  512   Comments: 0
CB&Q E8 9944B
Title:  CB&Q E8 9944B
Description:  CB&Q E8 9944B and SW1 9153 at Aurora, Illinois on July 4, 1963, photo by Chuck Zeiler. Number 9944B was built in May 1950 (c/n 9688) on EMD Order 2012A, became BN 9950 (3/2/70) and was sold to Amtrak (8/1/72) becoming 344, sold for scrap to Precision National in June 1981.
Photo Date:  7/4/1963  Upload Date: 10/10/2008 11:34:14 AM
Location:  Aurora, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  CBQ 9944B(E8A) CBQ 9153(SW1)
Views:  1035   Comments: 1
CB&Q E8 9944B and SW1 9153
Title:  CB&Q E8 9944B and SW1 9153
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9944B and SW1 9153 at Aurora, Illinois on July 4, 1963, photograph by Chuck Zeiler. Number 9944B was built in May 1950 (c/n 9688) on EMD Order 2012A, became BN 9950 (3/2/70) and was sold to Amtrak (8/1/72) becoming 344, sold for scrap to Precision National in June 1981. The SW1 was built in February 1941 (c/n 1285) on EMD Order E375, becoming BN 97, retired August 1983.
Photo Date:  7/4/1963  Upload Date: 12/24/2008 1:04:29 PM
Location:  Aurora, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  CBQ 9944B(E8A) CBQ 9153(SW1)
Views:  881   Comments: 0
CB&Q E8 9944B
Title:  CB&Q E8 9944B
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9944B at Aurora, Illinois on July 4, 1963, photograph by Chuck Zeiler.
Photo Date:  7/4/1963  Upload Date: 10/10/2008 11:45:20 AM
Location:  Aurora, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  CBQ 9944B(E8A)
Views:  654   Comments: 0
CB&Q E8 9944A
Title:  CB&Q E8 9944A
Description:  Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9944A on Train No. 30, the eastbound Ak-Sar-Ben (Nebraska, spelled backward) Zephyr, at Naperville, Illinois on March 30, 1965, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler. The Ak-Sar-Ben Zephyr deteriorated over time and became mostly a storage mail train.
Photo Date:  3/30/1965  Upload Date: 10/15/2015 2:05:13 PM
Location:  Naperville, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Passenger
Locomotives:  CBQ 9944A(E8A)
Views:  253   Comments: 0

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